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请比较 清朝 (1905~1910) 北京戳

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发表于 2020-3-23 23:48 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 ngsunyu 于 2020-3-23 23:55 编辑

1910年北京 实寄  法国?  昨天拍卖是今年最活跃的一次。请上传清朝 (1905~1910) 真戳以便比较。
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 楼主| 发表于 2020-3-24 00:01 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 ngsunyu 于 2020-3-24 00:02 编辑

1910年北京 实寄  法属马达加斯加?   邮资不足?  钢戳?请上传 清朝 (1905~1910) 真戳以便比较。
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 楼主| 发表于 2020-3-24 00:03 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 ngsunyu 于 2020-3-24 00:04 编辑

1905年北京 实寄 天津法租界?   请上传 清朝 (1905~1910) 真戳以便比较。
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 楼主| 发表于 2020-3-26 07:36 | 显示全部楼层
朋友提供的1909年邮戳。
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 楼主| 发表于 2020-7-13 06:42 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 ngsunyu 于 2020-7-13 06:55 编辑

第一楼 3月拍卖374美元没有付。 今日重新拍卖16位竞标335美元。最近大多数拍卖竞标者少于三位。
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 楼主| 发表于 2020-7-19 01:14 | 显示全部楼层
第一楼 1910年北京 戳 天坛极限明信片  拍卖有 16位竞标者 成交价 335美元。

1905年金字塔群戳 金字塔极限明信片  拍卖只有 2位竞标者 成交价 60美元。金字塔热潮已过?
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发表于 2020-9-29 20:07 | 显示全部楼层
在哪里拍卖的?
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 楼主| 发表于 2020-10-4 01:22 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 ngsunyu 于 2020-10-11 09:32 编辑

第一楼  at eBay. 其他我忘了。国外拍卖成交价 加上服务费(寻找另一枚需要的时间多少取决于稀有度,即两次拍卖之间的间隔时间  乘以. 每小时费用取决于个人费率)= 国内实售价。简单说明白:  不花时间学习外语和搜索拍卖则要多花钱。 请选择。

有一篇关于他们的文章。 中文是极限遗传学:三大家族。 用英语写,因为太长(15000字)而无法翻译。 26张图片 (1872 年 ~1913 年邮戳)。
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 楼主| 发表于 2020-10-18 03:01 | 显示全部楼层
尝试翻译但相比于我的小学五年级中文是更糟。
欢迎读者用中文翻译工具翻译《极限遗传学:三大家族》 的节选:
请评论错误并提出修改建议。

Although China witnessed similar transition from imperial monarchy to
communist rule, the sacred symbol of imperial rule, as part of the
Chinese cultural heritage, was not removed or replaced. That symbol,
depicted on stamps and as ornaments of all imperial architecture, is
the mythological Chinese dragon, reimagined with the horns of a stag,
ears of a bull, eyes of a rabbit, claws of a tiger and the scales of a
fish, all on a long serpentine body. Instead of individual coat of
arms representing different royal houses, Qing dynasty emperors
adopted the imperial dragon symbol of the preceding Ming dynasty in
order to show that they have inherited the Mandate of Heaven to rule
over China after coming to power by invasion and occupation as
northern barbarians.

Whether any first parental generation precursor, franked with imperial
Qing dynasty dragon stamp issued in 1878 (Large Dragon), 1897
(inscribed Imperial Chinese Post), or 1898 (inscribed Chinese Imperial
Post), exist or not is an unanswered question. Presumably if one or
more do exist, it (or they) will be sequestered in private
collection(s) and only will appear briefly during exhibition events.
What I can show is a second generation (or F1) precursor and a clear
path towards F1 and F2 maximum cards. This second generation (or F1)
precursor (Figure 3) shows the Temple of Heaven in Peking (meaning
Northern Capital in Chinese, Peking is the romanized version of
Beijing). To be more precise, the central building is the Hall of
Prayer for Good Harvests decorated with dragon and phoenix motifs
throughout, most prominent being the lavishly carved marble dragons
found in the middle section of the staircases used to ascend the
three-level round marble platform, each level surrounded by carved
marble railings. This structure is only part of the Temple of Heaven
imperial religious complex.

Qing dynasty Chinese Imperial Post in 1909 issued three Temple of
Heaven stamps showing the Hall of Prayer for Good Harvests. Franked
with all three stamps, a F1 maximum card was realized in 1910 and sent
from Peking to France (Figure 4) and completed a seamless transition
(or evolution) from precursor to maximum card in the same generation.

After the end of the Qing dynasty in 1912, many Temple of Heaven
stamps have been issued: for example in 1923 (four stamps issued by
the Republic of China), in 1956 (issued as S15-4 by the Peoples
Republic of China), in 1997 (four stamps issued as 1997-18, showing
additional structures of the complex), in 2004 (issued as 2004-16 to
promote 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing), etc, all with F1 or F2
maximum cards realized, some have triple concordant postmarks (1997
and 2004).
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 楼主| 发表于 2020-10-18 03:01 | 显示全部楼层
图3是第3楼。
FIGURE 3.  An example of Chinese imperial dragon second generation (or
F1) maximum card precursor. This early example depicts the Hall of
Prayer for Good Harvests (祈年殿 in Chinese) within the Temple of Heaven
imperial religious complex in Peking. The 2 cents dragon stamp in
scarlet was issued in 1898 as part of the second imperial issue
engraved in London. The Hall of Prayer for Good Harvests is a
magnificent triple-gabled circular building decorated with dragon and
phoenix motifs painted in gold on blue background, as well as the
lavishly carved marble dragons found in the middle section of the
staircases used to ascend the three-level round marble platform, each
level surrounded by carved marble railings. This precursor was sent
from Peking (location of the Temple of Heaven complex) to Tien Tsin on
May 8, 1905.
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 楼主| 发表于 2020-10-18 03:02 | 显示全部楼层

图4是第1楼。
FIGURE 4.  An example of the transition from early F1 precursor to
late F1 maximum card. This example depicts the same Hall of Prayer for
Good Harvests within the Temple of Heaven imperial religious complex
shown in Figure 3. The three image concordant stamps were issued in
1909 to commemorate the reign of Emperor Xuantong (The Last Emperor of
China). His reign began in Dec 1908 (when he was 32 months old) and
ended in Feb 1912 by the Xinhai Revolution of 1911. These stamps are
the first and only commemorative issue of the imperial Qing dynasty.
This second generation (or F1) maximum card was sent from Peking
(location of the Temple of Heaven complex) on Sept 26, 1910 to
Pont-à-Mousson, France (arrival postmark was dated Oct 28, 1910).
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